Sunday, April 26, 2009

Do you have a Macy*s card?

If you ever shop at Macy*s, you have heard the all-too-familiar question, "Do you have a Macy*s card?" A similar question awaits you at Herberger's (Carson-Pirie-Scott), Dilliards, and JC Penney. Virtually all department stores market their own credit cards.

But, why does the sales associate ask this question? Quite simply, most department stores pay sales associates for each account they initiate. At first, this seems strange: most people go to a department store for clothing, not high-interest credit. Strangeness aside, the fact that department stores pay employees to sell credit cards suggests it is profitable to do so... provided that department stores know what they are doing.

From my inside source on department stores, I learned that a primary reason department stores sell store credit cards is that "Customers who have store credit cards buy more than customers who do not." This motivation to sell store credit cards saddens me because it is such bad logic.

This is horrible logic because correlation does not imply causation. The department store wants to know whether selling a credit card to a customer causes that customer to buy more. Knowing that cardholders spend more than non-cardholders tells nothing about causation for two obvious reasons:
  1. Customers who agree to holding a store credit card are different than customers who refuse to sign up. Those who obtain cards know they'll be more likely than average to use the card. They're the big spenders, and big spenders stand to benefit more from the credit card offer. For you econ nerds, this effect is adverse selection.
  2. The second effect is even more obvious. Having a store card entitles the customer to lower prices, extra discounts, and special store coupons. As introductory economics students know, people consume more when the price is low. If people are especially responsive to prices, the effect of buying more outweighs the discounted price in the revenue calculation. Expenditures go up, but only because of the special discounts: it had nothing to do with the card.

Given these reasons to expect customers with cards to spend more, it seems unlikely to me that people spend more money because their card has a Macy*s logo on it. But, don't tell that to managers at department stores. The number of "loyalty accounts" (as they are called) is an important metric for employee performance. At performance reviews, credit card peddling is almost as important as actual sales of clothing! These stores even have special managers whose sole purpose is to get associates to initiate more "loyalty accounts."

If the cards do not actually cause more customer spending, all of these efforts are a pure waste of time, energy, and company resources. Without spending so much time on credit cards, sales associates could focus on selling merchandise and providing good customer service. Such efforts would have a more direct (and perhaps, more effective) link to the company's bottom line.

This explanation really troubles me because the practice of selling store credit cards is a pervasive practice in the retail clothing industry. If selling credit cards is just pure waste of profits, wouldn't we expect someone to figure that out and make millions? To the readers, do you see other profit-seeking reasons to peddle credit cards? I have some ideas, which I will share in Tuesday's post, but I want to see what the readers think before I reveal my hand.

11 comments:

  1. One thing I think you forget to mention is the idea that a Macy's card is a form of advertisement. When someone is thinking about buying new clothes and/or going shopping and they see the Macy's logo in their wallet everyday, they are more likely to shop at Macy's instead of another clothing store. So in a way, it's a form of marketing/advertising the Macys name. But who knows how great this actually affects where and how often people shop. Maybe a ton, maybe just a little.
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  2. Amanda B from Quad C!Apr 27, 2009 07:14 PM
    First - Tony! What a surprise to see you again!

    Next - I think Mitch makes a good point about advertising. Also, you have to remember that some middle-of-the-road people get suckered into the credit card if there is a one-time discount or similar offer. These people and even the "big spenders" you mentioned may be more likely to shop at this than another store, knowing that they are eligible for discounts and etc. Even if the discount doesn't actually add up to the best price, people do love a sale.
    Also, the cards are one way for stores to target repeat customers - possibly not just with discounts but also by tracking what they buy.
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  3. Another revenue stream for stores that push branded credit cards is interest and fees income from purchases made OUTSIDE of the store!
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  4. i used to work for macy's and let me tell you the opening credits carries more weight on your performance review then actual sales. The methods they ask us employees to use are horrible...if you have a customer with a macy's card already, they push you to have he customer open a joint account with his/her mate or run a credit app again by claiming that the account has not been found...the logic for macy's is that the opening discount credit will get customers to spend...if they don't have enough to buy something they have the credit to give them a month to pay off the bill...pretty sad.
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  5. macys employees get paid very little on credit applications ($1). They HAVE to ask because it's their job and their performance scores depend on it... otherwise they could get fired.

    They make very little in credit so they don't care about the payout. They only care enough so that they make their quota so they won't get fired
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  6. I work at Macys and opening up "loyalties" is a must. Every employee in the store is ranked by sales and the number of loyalties they open every day. By opening an account, the payout for the employee depends on the Loyalty Card. The more you open, the higher the payout. It can range from $1 to $50 per loyalty. Some managers coach on sales and some opening credit cards. Full time employees have to open atleast 3 loyalties a week!
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  7. Wow and I thought Sears was bad. I work for the Lands End department and they require our whole department to get atleast one a month, but thats only because our customers are from a different demographic. I suppose it's also because a majority of our credit accounts come from appliances/lawn care/ tools-- where selling credit cards makes most sense. Also there's another aspect that you didnt cover... it's cheaper for department stores to make a sale on their own credit because there's less fee's involved with the transaction and they usually make more money off the interest. Those two points were the only thing they pitched to us during training, our rewards program is supposed to be what makes them loyal. (yeah, ohkay.)
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  8. I too work at Macy's. I've been working there a few months, and have only gotten 1 loyalty. I'm an "on-call" associate, and even though my manager is constantly on my ass, I won't get fired for it. In this economy, they can't possibly expect so many people to open up credit accounts. It's ridiculous, and I agree, a waste of time. If I'm making incredible sales (which I do!), then loyalties shouldn't matter. But they do, and it sucks.
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  9. i work at macys too and let me tell you they(managers) will push you soo hard to open a loyalty, and they'll think your not trying hard enough even if you've asked every customer and noone wants to open an account. And its true noone really cares about the payout, its just to get the managers off your a**. I also recently found out that the payout comes out of your paycheck so its just like an advanced check is what one of my managers told me. If you check your weekly paychecks you'll see that whatever you get payed for the accounts gets taken out from your paychecks. But besides that there is sooo much pressure on employees to open "loyalties". its 2 accounts(loyalties) a week for part timers and 3-4 for full timers..its crazy..
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  10. i work at macy's and its super easy to get people to open up credits. i opened up 7 today. didnt even have to twist their arm ( i work in mens) no you wont get fired if you dont get anyone to open one up...people exaggerate on here. they just want u to aim for 1 per 40 hrs of work. i think its very easy. simply ask the customer "do you have any coupons?" they will either say yes and hand you their star rewards card coupons or say "no" then say " oh well you can save 35 or 40%" depending on the day, if you sign up today! you can pay your bill right here at the register as well. if its a small purchase i usually dont bother asking, if its 50 bucks or more i always ask, people like to save money in this economy. try it! ive opened up 30+ credit apps this past month
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  11. I believe Tony is referring to the specificity rule where you find the goal you hope to achieve and deduce plans that get them directly without incurring unnecessary costs. But those cards as has been said also contribute to their marketing efforts. The stores may also get interest revenues from credit stores, and given America's record with credit and debt, they are just following the norm.
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